On Thu, 27 Sep 2001 10:27:02 +1000, Barry OGrady <> wrote:

>>Hey BOG, it’s all crap, but I haven’t got the time to answer all of

>>them. Pick any 5 and I’ll discuss those with you.

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>>Les Brown

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>1.

>>1. ‘We beg Thee, 0 Lord, inflict Thy wrath on the nations not believing in

Thee. Take away, 0 Lord, >>all hope from them. Destroy all foes of Thy nation.’ Synagaga Judaica, p.

212. Minhagen, p. 23. >>Crach Chain, 480 Magah.

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RESPONSE This is stated in the Haggada of Passover, it is the passage beginning with “Shefoch Chamatcha”. After what the gentiles have done to the Jews through the ages I see no wrong at all in praying to G-d to destroy our assailants. The prayer is not against gentiles in general only against the bloodthirsty barbarous anti-Semites as the prayer carries on the say “because they have destroyed Jacob (the people of Israel) and demolished your sanctuary”. This end is of course deliberately excluded from the text they copied for this reason. E.S.

>2.

>>3. “The decisions of the Talmud are words of the living God. Jehovah

Himself asks the opinion of the >>earthly rabbis when there are difficult affairs in heaven.” Rabbi Menechen

Commentary on Fifth Book >

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RESPONSE Although the sources quoted do not exist it is because of the ignorance of the one who copied it, but the general idea is correct. The Talmud and commentaries state many times that both sides of a dispute between Talmudic sages are actually true they are just stating the two ways of logic reasoning while both concepts originate from G-d’s divine wisdom. That is why so to speak G-d learns the Talmud, it means to say he is the source of all the Talmudic reasoning, and he “states” the laws in name of the sages who projected the divine logic of each opinion. By the way the sources quoted are definitely forged as the name “Jehova” is never mentioned in any novellae apart from the scriptures as it is strictly forbidden to utter it at all. E.S./edited D.S.M.

>3.

>>7. “Every goy who studies the Talmud and every Jew who helps him in it,

ought to die.’, Sanhedryn, >>59a, aboda Zora 8-6, Szagiga 13.

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RESPONSE The quote from Sanhedrin does say that a gentile may not study torah but the other sources do not exist. There is no practical death penalty for this offense the penalty stated is only a term of speech stated in order to indicate the severity of the sin. A gentile may study the laws regarding the 7 Noahide commandments as stated ibid. and he will merit great everlasting bliss for this, however he may not study the laws of Judaism. The basic reason for prohibiting the study of Torah is because it is a special covenant between G-d and his chosen people, any one who is not affiliated with the chosen people is regarded a thief. Rashi ibid. E.S.

>4.

>>16. “A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl.” &ad. Shas. 2:2.

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RESPONSE No such source at all, on the contrary any sexual contact with a gentile woman is strictly prohibited even without marriage, see Talmud Sanhedrin 82a and Avoda Zarah 36b E.S.

>5.

>>33.. “A Jewish mid-wife is not only permitted but she is compelled to help

a Jewish mother on >>Saturday (Jewish Sabbath) and when so doing to do anything which otherwise

would desecrate the >>Saturday. But it is forbidden to help a non-Jewish woman even if it should

be possible to help her >>without desecrating the Saturday, because she is to be considered only as

an animal.” Schulchan >>gruch, Orach Chaim 330.

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RESPONSE On the contrary it states clearly that the Shabbat may be desecrated to help a non-Jewish woman giving birth. E.S.

BOG, please look up the quoted web site for ALL the other questions you have, since these are replies to the same anti-semitic web-site that you got all your questions from

BOG, I have just spent a whole day today – Yom Kippur, fasting and in prayer, asking G-d to bless this planet with peace, health and prosperity for all its inhabitants, Jew and gentile, for the next twelve months, but now I ask myself “what for”? We Jews believe that the welfare of this world, even its very existence, depends on us. It is our role to be a “light unto the nations”, and yet I am puzzled by the number of gentiles who are trying to extinguish that light.

There is a statement by our Rabbis that if the gentiles only knew how important the role of the observant Jew is in their welfare, they would post a guard to watch every one of us to make sure that we do our job properly. If we suffer – you suffer.

And Rowland, you have posted many of my statements on your web-site, so please add the above paragraph to them.

Les