“Brown Family” <> wrote in message . > On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:29:11 +1000, “Rowland Croucher”

> <> wrote:

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> >As many of you will know, I’ve been to Israel – stayed with a Palestinian

> >family, in a small Jewish hotel (in Netanya), and a Christian hospice,

> >talked with many from all three groups…

> >

> >And I’ve read Elias Chacour…

>

> Read the Book of Judges too – same story, 3000 ago.

Done that! Not my favourite OT book :-)!

> >My sympathies – and anger – are, if anything, slightly more with

> >Palestinians (particularly Palestinian Christians, who cop it from all

> >directions).

> >

> >One of the sadnesses in this mess is that people aren’t listening. (Do

you > >know a Jew who’s read Elias Chacour? Know a militant Muslim who listens

> >carefully to an opposing point of view?)

>

> That’s an assumption to good to pass up, Rowland. You might want to read

the > review of his book in a Jewish online book shop:

> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/3132/books_history02.htm

Not much of a review there Les. Do you know any _substantial_ Jewish reviews of Chacour?

> I hope you can read Arabic to tell me of a militant Moslem web-site that

> reviewed “The Siege” by Conor Cruise O’Brien. Christians should read that

> book, Rowland.

Good point. Yes…

And I’d like to find an authentic translation of some of the diatribes Arafat levels against the Jews in Arabic broadcasts. I’ve heard so many Jewish commentators (including Netanyahu and Sharon) talk about these speeches, but haven’t seen a full text for one yet. Can you help?

> I think the most poignant story I heard was actually from a Palestinian

> living in Melbourne.

>

> During a talk back …

<> > Arabfat

^^^^^^^^ Les I get the message that your use of this spelling of the name of a fellow-human made in God’s image (that’s in your Scriptures too) means you probably don’t respect him. Now I hope I can begin to understand the reasons for that…

But the lack of any kind of respect between most Israelis and Palestinians is, in my view, at the heart of the problem here. Time Magazine last week had a brilliant piece from an Arab about why Palestinians are prepared to blow themselves up. Heap shame on a people continuously, and you breed rage, and when that’s mixed in with Arab feelings of inferiority etc. etc. etc. you’ve got a volatile mix. We’ve got to re-educate a whole generation all over again…

> Les Brown

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Shalom! Rowland Croucher