On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:51:14 GMT, Willie Martin <> wrote:
> What about all of your killing of Christian children to use their
>blood in your Jewish rituals. How about the millions of Christians you
>jews have murdered over the years. No you brought all the hate on
>yourselfs because of your folling the dictates of the Talmud which,
>whether you admit it or not, is the most blasphemous book ever wirtten
>against Christ and Christianity.
You really don’t know what you are talking about, do you?
Some of the crimes committed by Christians against Jews during the middle ages were justified by the sort of arguments you are spreading, but modern historians (Jewish, Christian, and those of other faiths and no religion at all) agree that there is _no_ evidence of Jews killing Christians. Ever. It didn’t happen.
Christians, on the other hand, have killed Jews by the thousand in just about every country in Europe, and the history of that is very well recorded and accepted by just about everyone.
I have read the Talmud, Willie. Not just the exerpts published in antisemitic hate literature, but whole books of it. Some parts of it are quite violent against non-Jews, but no more so than the writings of many Christian authors of the same period. The difference is that history shows that the anti-Jewish teachings of Christian speakers was put into effect by their followers. The anti-Christian writings in the Talmud, if they are authentic (which is open to considerable doubt), have _never_ been put into practise.
Willie, I say this to you as one Christian to another. Please stop dishonouring the name of Christ by blaspheming against him and his people in spreading this nonsense.
cheers
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>”Nigel B. Mitchell” wrote:
>>
>> Willie Martin <> wrote in message
news:<>… >> > Tell me something, and don’t come across with all that we don’t hate
>> > him bull shit. Tell me the truth, why do you Jews who hate him so very
>> > badly and His followers, that you want to destroy all of them, why you
>> > want Christ to be a Jew so very badly.
>> >
>> > Is it just to deceive Christians or what?
>> >
>> > I have studied your books for years and have never found the answer
>> > to that question, nor ever found a jew who would answer it truthfully.
>>
>> It sounds like you have been studying anti-Jewish books written by
>> Christians rather than actual Jewish literature.
>>
>> Except for a few short passages in the Talmud (some of which are of
>> doubtful authentivity anyway) there is almost no animosity towards
>> Jesus, Christianity or Christians in the writing of Jewish religious
>> leaders of the past 2000 years. Contrast this with the wealth of
>> anti-Jewish propaganda produced by Christians from the 3rd century to
>> the twentieth.
>>
>> And how many recorded incidents of Jewish violence against Christians
>> in the past 2000 years? Almost none. Compare that to the record of
>> Christian (Catholic, Orthodox and protestant) violence against Jews.
>>
>> Anyone who has studied the history of western civilisation would come
>> to the conclusion that Christians have given Jews ample reason to hate
>> us and all that we stand for, and it is amazing (and probably a sign
>> of God’s infinite grace) that so many do not. The Catholic church has
>> made some steps towards apologising for the sins of previous
>> generations against the Jews, but it has a long way to go in this
>> regard. Most other churches are still in the stage of denial, either
>> pretending that it did not happen or attributing the persecutions and
>> pogroms to a misguided few rather than acknowledging the institutional
>> and organised support they received from the official church.
>>
>> And while I have your attention, on any reading of the New Testament
>> Jesus and Paul were both born, lived, and died as Jews, both in
>> ethnicity and religion.
>> Deal with it.
>>
>> cheers
>>
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>> Nigel B. Mitchell
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